The Helpful Angel « Thread Started on May 7, 2007, 9:23pm »
My mothers friend, Deb had another story to tell. What got her on the subject of angels, was when she came to see my mother's new home, and saw all of the angels my mother has decorating her rooms, everywhere. She said that when she was a little girl their house caught on fire and was soon going to be burned to the ground. Her family was all standing across the road, because of the intense heat, and they were helpless to do anything but watch. As they were standing there in tears, a man in a plaid shirt walked up and said 'Is there anything at all I can do to help you' Her mother (her father had passed away a few years before) said 'I know that the house is lost, but if we could just move our truck out of the driveway, maybe we could save it, but the heat is too much, and we can't get near it' She said the man walked over and got right in it and backed it out of the driveway. How was he able to do it when they couldn't even go near it, it was so hot? Well she said he stayed until the fireman came and he left, and he never told them his name or anything. She said that it wasn't long after that, that they were driving down Main St. and her sister said 'Hey look, it's that man that moved our truck' Everyone looked but no one could see him, but her sister insisted she saw him. She said he was wearing the same plaid shirt that he had on the night that he had helped them. She said that he was helping a little boy on his bicycle! No one saw him but her sister. Thanks for reading my story, Amy G
Re: The Helpful Angel « Reply #2 on May 13, 2007, 9:15pm »
Hi Amy G.
I don't know anything about Angels. I do believe they exist, and I think they are here to help us. I have heard stories of people that have seen their angel and swear that they were saved by one. Whether or not they need wings to be an angel, I cannot say. I know some eurpoeans believe everyone is born with a guardian angel. I am open minded and hope there are such things. Maybe if anyone has more information or an opinion they can share they will respond? Ron
Re: The Helpful Angel « Reply #3 on May 14, 2007, 8:44pm »
anna, actually the scriptures say to ' be careful to entertain strangers, where by many have entertained strangers unawares.' If they had their wings on I would certainly think we would know that they were angels.
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Re: The Helpful Angel « Reply #4 on May 16, 2007, 12:17am »
When I was about 5 yrs old I started dreaming about a little girl. She was white with long pigtails. She loved climbing trees and watching her mother cook from the tree. They lived in a small place in the country. The mother wore clothes that I was not familiar with. I remember a man arriving on a wagon driven by a horse. The little girl was an only child. When they spoke it was a language I didn't know but somehow I knew what was said. This little girl was so real but only in dreams.
This went on for quite a while. I got to know her well. Then suddenly she was sick. I could hear a very soft voice telling her to go toward the light. She was afraid. At this point it was like she could see me and hear me. Each day the voice tried to coax her toward the light and she fought it off. The little girl wanted me to walk with her but I remember even as a child that I was not suppose to go, she was to go alone.
I told her I would guild her where she had to go but i could not go any further.
I remember turning a corner and there was this beautiful bright light and a woman I figured was the voice I had heard. She took the little girls' hand and they walked off
I never dreamed of her again.
But for some reason after all these years I've never forgotten her.
Re: The Helpful Angel « Reply #5 on May 16, 2007, 8:07am »
um Amy just to let you know demons are fallen angels that reside inside the body, so yes sometimes when a demon wants to make ammends with God, he will be like an angel and you will be entertaining them...they are still sons of God Amy but just need to make the right choices again,I use to work with a fallen angel at my old office, and he did the 12 days of christmas for me, in a persons body YES, but that is because he knew I am what I am, and wants to be forgiven by God, so he went out of way to do something special for me, I took those gifts because satans servants get judged by their deeds as it says in scripture, I do focus on Jesus by the way, but with prophesy comes knowledge of revelations...I find the bad demons do not like hearing about revelations because if they do not change back they will be eternally separated by God, so by me talking about revelations it is a reminder of that need to change and SOON
demons=fallen angels
but if you are talking about real angels they have wings Amy, I never responded to your other message because God told me not too Amy, but I am sure you are aware of that factor anyhow,
Re: The Helpful Angel « Reply #6 on May 16, 2007, 12:15pm »
anna, I wasn't aware you couldn't reply to my message, I don't claim to be a prophetess as you do. God has called me to me a more humbler servant. I just have a few questions for you. For one I can't really say that I've ever really met someone who claimed to be a prophetess. 1. What makes you feel that God has called you to be a prophetess? 2. What have you prophesied that has came to pass? 3. We are all called to be witnesses of God, so what sets you apart from the rest of us? 4. What denomination of church are you a member of? 5. Jesus teaches us that only he and God have control over evil spirits and Satan. His disciples also did, but only if Jesus gave them the power to do so,we must pray and ask God to remove the evil spirit from us. It can only be done through Him. Do you believe that? 6. Could you please provide Scriptures to support the claims that you make? Jesus taught that we should let the Scriptures speak for us, he teaches us to us put on the Word as a soldier puts on armor for battle. I don't want a battle, but I will defend the Truth and God's word. I will defend other Christians and non-Christians alike against unfair judgments.(isn't that what Jesus did for us on the cross). I will be a standing stone here, as God told the children of Israel to be. If you are truly called to be a Prophetess from God then Truth in Gods word will find you out. If you are not, then humble yourself and help others with the gifts that God has given you. I make no claims to know everything there is to know about the Bible, but the Scriptures are there for me to use when I don't know the answer, and the Scriptures don't change so I know the answer I'll be seeking will be there. I may have more questions for you as we go along if you would like to continue to communicate with me. But if you can answer my questions and they support the Scriptures I promise to be open and honest with you. So far you have 'prophesied that I have some sort of evil spirit with me. It is written that Satan will tempt us all, just as he tempted Jesus in the wilderness , so I know that Satan is near us always, including you. It is also written that when one accepts Jesus into their life, repents, and becomes baptized that the holy spirit lives in them always. You told me that I could not have the holy spirit because I have a 'familiar' spirit in my body? That claim goes against the Scriptures so you will have to show me, through Scriptures of course, that you are right. You say you are a prophetess and that I read cards. I'm sorry to tell you this but you are incorrect. There is my first doubt in you as a prophetess. You immediately looked for the bad in me. You did not consider that I, too, was here hoping to give help and hope. I have witnessed events in my life that can not be explained, that is another reason that I came to this website. That is why we are all here. Does that mean that because we would like to research things and discuss things that we are bad people? If that were true then most of the Bible would not have been written. Look at all of the amazing things that happened in Bible times. I don't think anyone here is practicing the Devils work just because we talk about things that have happened to us. They are just things that have happened to us and we would like to meet others who have had similar experiences without being called names and labeled. I know that you will not mind the challenge I have set before you. Jesus was always more than willing to perform healing to prove himself as Gods Son, so I know that you will not mind the challenge of proving to be a humble prophetess. I look forward to hearing from you. Your words and conduct will be observed by me, God and everyone else who reads this. If you do not respond then God has shown you that prophesy is not your chosen path. If you do respond remember I am armed with God's Word. AmyG
Re: The Helpful Angel « Reply #7 on May 16, 2007, 12:38pm »
anna, another note to add. I know when I'm doing something that is right or wrong by asking my self a question. I ask myself if I can stop and thank God for giving me the opportunity to do what I'm doing. If I can't answer right away I know I'm doing the wrong thing. The only thing I can't be thankful for is that I was too harsh to you in my post yesterday. I ask God to forgive me, and you also, and to everyone reading this. Satan uses anger to tempt me. Anger is not a sin but when you let your anger get the better of you it is. I know that is not the example God would have me use. I have let you in on a secret chink in my armor, I will be interested to see if you will us it against me. AmyG
Re: The Helpful Angel « Reply #8 on May 16, 2007, 1:18pm »
first of all anger is a sin, second of all I do not need to prove to you what I am Amy, some will see it some will not,
first of all you asked for scriptual proof right? Read revelations 19, the true spirit of prophesy is through the spirit of Christ, which means not what is happening next week, that is false prophesy when you tell someone what is going to happen next week, or about money and all that other garbage, true prophesy is through the scriptures, like I have been doing, still think I am a falsy?
second of all-a true disciple of christ will NOT be a denomination, this is how I know you do not have the holy spirit as well, God does not believe in the separation of the churchs, I believe the whole bible, not bits and pieces of it, and will not support the fact that the churchs are all separate, that is MANMADE,
third of all-he does give certain annointing to some to cast out demons, I have done it to myself, and puked my guts out, and to my husband, but I prefer to go to God, because of the violence they can do, not only physically but emotionally, with verbal abuse and pretending they do not believe me, they prefer to remain hidden why do you think they call it occult, occult means hidden!!
Satan is no where near me, he has spoken to me though many times in other bodies give me a moment I will post a letter he sent me care to see it?
A Letter From Beezlebub « Reply #9 on May 16, 2007, 1:28pm »
Now I took off the email address's because of privacy the person that was being utulized as beezlebubs carrier does deserve privacy, I forwarded this to a minister afterwards that is why you see " A letter from Beezlebub" start from the bottom and go upwards...now he speaks old english but mixed with our english as you can tell
From: Dawn Gordon [mailto:dawngordon35@yahoo.ca] Sent: February 7, 2007 10:40 AM To: Subject: a letter from beezlebub
I wrote
Your completely disgusting-your time will come I am not guessing dates, but I dont think it will be that long away from the revelations I have been having-please stop emailing me, I will remove it...
He wrote:
Yea, beholdeth! A liar is one who promises to remove me from an email list three days ago and has still not done it. "And the Lord did smite and frowneth upon those who make false promises" And Lo! How Satan doth love those who perpetrate such acts of deception!
For the third day in a row, please remove """"""from your address list. Apparently, one of the 144,000 has trouble with managing their address books.
With love and affection - yours truly, beelzebub
-----Original Message----- From: Dawn Gordon [mailto:dawngordon35@yahoo.ca] Sent: Friday, February 2, 2007 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: Lying & Holy Spirit
The Lord rebuke you whatever sent me that about bad spelling because that is not in proverbs 3:1: THE LORD REBUKE YOU SATAN
HE Wrote wrote:
One thing I have figured out, you can not be a bad speller and have Holy Spirit, it's one or the other, God would not give Holy Spirit to someone who cannot spell, because Satan is the King of Bad Spellers
Proverbs 3:1
-----Original Message----- From: Dawn Gordon [mailto:dawngordon35@yahoo.ca] Sent: Friday, February 2, 2007 10:39 AM To: Subject: Lying & Holy Spirit
Good News though first, I had one response! YAHOO. That made my morning, one more for the 144,000.
One thing I have figured out, you can not be a lyer and have Holy Spirit, it's one or the other, God would not give Holy Spirit to someone who lies, because Satan is the King of Lyers-
As you can see in revelations about the 144,000, no lies were found on their lips they were blameless. Only those willing to choose the Lord, and not to lie, will be given the gift of Holy Spirit, because lying is Satan.
I did receive another revelation however-
When Satan gets cast to hell-to join the false prophet and the beast, they are not two people like what is being said- it's two GROUPINGS of people-the false prophet represents exactly that false prophesy of any sort(not scripture)-magic arts that people do not turn away from including witchcraft of any sort- the beast represents the rest- the lyers, adulterers,murderers and the sexually immoral- it's two groupings not two people-If you are doing any of those things, why would the Good Lord give you Holy Spirit? It can not reside inside of you when you are those things. It would conteract-Holy Spirit changes you.
Knowing their thoughts, He said to them, "Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and no city or house divided against itself will stand; and if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself; how then will his kingdom stand? And if I cast out demons by Beelzebul, by whom do your sons cast them out? Therefore they shall be your judges. But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the Kingdom of God has come upon you." (Matthew 12:22-28 RSV)
this is to show you that some do have authority, "it is by the spirit of God=Holy Spirit."
you can not have holy spirit if you are not abiding by the ten commandments, doing witchcraft, lying etc...you need to do BOTH to have holy spirit,,
and Jesus himself was accused of casting out demons on authority of satan, they told him the same thing you told me Amy that I do not have authority, but you worded it a bit differently!
4.1.4. Mark 6:7 (see also Mark 6:13) = Matt 10:1 (see also Matt 10:8) = Luke 9:1: Jesus gives authority to the disciples to cast out unclean spirits or demons.
4.1.7. Luke 10:17-20: When they return, the seventy-two rejoice that demons are subject to them
.2.6. Matt 12:22-30 = Luke 11:14-23; (see Mark 3:20-30): In Matthew and Luke, the Beelzebul controversy is precipitated by Jesus' driving out of demon from a man (see below).
Beelzebul is SATAN, that is one of his names, Jesus calls him the "Prince of Demons" which means the higher one, so that is the fallen cherub I told you about in Ezekiel 28, as you can see he emailed me!!
When he talks to me as well through the peoples I react strongly sometimes to the point of gagging, because he is coming so close to Holy Spirit my body is reacting to him, after my reaction he either walks away, or leaves that body, because he knows he has been revealed,
as you can see I tried to rebuke him but it did not work, because he knows I am not the son of God, and could care less if a prophet tries to rebuke him, it does not work on him, but does work on lower type of demons that I mentioned in the demon section,
divinatory and familiars are lower and can be cast out through authority through Christ, but I gave my precautions and warnings of it, always ask the Lord,
Re: The Helpful Angel « Reply #12 on May 16, 2007, 3:42pm »
anna, The feeling of anger is not a sin. Jesus was perfect and without sin, and he was angry in the temple when he found the merchants cheating the poor people. When you let anger take you away from God it is sin.
You still haven't anwered my questions of what sets you apart from other Christians. We all have Christ's spirit. We reseaved it when we confessed that He is our Lord and Savior. And I didn't say you were false I said I have doubts about you being a prophit. And I still do. I think you're confussing 'witness' with 'profit', but thats just my opinion.
I never said you had to come from a certain denomination. I only asked because I am curious as to your religious back ground. Denominations are made by man so that we can organize and worship in an inviroment that is comfortable to us. Many choose a denomination that focuses on certain aspects that they feel God is drawing them to. God works in everyone's live differently, that is why some denominations appeal to some and not to others. You should not be uncomfortable to tell me your denomination. Be proud of it. I am from the Disciples of Christ denomination.
I understand that you believe that only God has power over evil spirits. He can give you power over them but HE has to give you the power to do it. So you did answer that question I think.
Satan is near you. He is near everyone on this Earth because his mission here is to steer us from God and to lessen the reward we will recieve in heavan. Satan works through other people just like God does. There is no way you are in this world without Satan being near you. There is no way you are in this world without God being near you.
The e-mails you show don't explain anything except that you are being persicuted. Jesus said that Christians will be persecuted. You have to fight back with his word. I am not looking for proof of Satan. I already know he exists. I am not looking for proof of God. I already know he exists. You've shown me nothing here that makes me feel any different about your claims than I did before. I want to know why you think you will be saved and no other Christians can be. I want to know why you think you have the right to tell others they are not Christians. It sounds like Satan is using you to put doubt in everyone's heart.
God gives you the Holy Spirit when you take Jesus as your Lord and Savior,(Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent , and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall recieve the gift of the Holy Spirit') and it does not leave you. It does not mean that you must be perfect it means that you are forgiven. 'ALL have sinned and ALL will fall short of the glory of God.' If every person who has sinned gets tossed into Hell then what would be the purpose of Jesus dying on the cross. He went to the cross to be a perfect, unblemished sacrifice for our sins. If a person has taken Him as his Lord and Savior then when you die, He will stand at your right side at the throne of God. His perfect blood will cover your sins, and because God cannot look upon sin of any kind, He will let you into his presence. He will only see His Son's perfect blood.
Re: The Helpful Angel « Reply #13 on May 16, 2007, 5:34pm »
anna, I think we were posting at the same time. I have just read your second and third posts. I have read the scriptures you have mentioned, but I don't understand why you think I have a demon. I have said nothing but praises to God. You said that you believed that one cannot have the holy spirit and still have a demon present, but I do have the Holy Spirit with me as I have mentioned earlier I have taken Jesus as my Lord and Savior, I have been baptized and practice my religion regularly. So if a person cannot have a demon and the Holy Spirit at the same time then it is immposible for me to have a demon. I am certain that Satan is at work in my life. But so is God. Like they both are in everyone elses lives. If you are so repulsed by demons then how can you stand to continue to message me. If you are certain that I have a demon then perhaps you should stop messaging me. I do not mean to cause you any grief. You seem to be quite obsessed with this whole demon thing. Rest in the fact that God is fighting for you. When you let things like this take over your life you are letting Satan win. He is making you miserable. I don't have very much knowledge of demons and evil spirits, except for the fact that Jesus cast out many from people, and the fact that Satan is at work on Earth. I'm sorry that someone is unkind enough to harrass you with e-mails. Did you ever consider that someone(a human) is picking at you to try to scare you. You rubbed me the wrong way at first, maybe you angered someone else with your too straight forward comments and they are trying to get back at you. You are a wonderful person and God loves, you certantly have the passion it takes to do his work. We all differ on our approaches to religion. I'm still not certain about your claims to be a prophtess but it dosen't matter what I think does it? I don't know Gods plan for your life. Like I mentioned in a past post, we are both Christians and we should be getting along, like you quoted earlier if we divide we cannot stand. I guess my main issue with you was the fact that in my opinion you are being too harsh with people you don't know. People are turned off by that. We want to draw others in not away. Look at the things Jesus said about the Pharisees being so harsh and judgemental. You seemed offended when I asked for proof of being a prophit. You think I'm judging you and you don't like it. Well no one does. You seemed offended when I asked what denomination of church you went to. You felt like I was going to judge you by that. You did not like my straight forward questions. No one likes to be treated that way. If you don't want me to message you anymore please say so and I won't, but don't say mean things about me and expect me not to respond. Telling someone they have a demon inside them is not the greatest compliment you can give to someone. It certantly is the worst one I've ever recieved. When you tell someone that, prepare for battle, some may not take it even as well as I have. When you claim to know others thoughts and intentions of course they are going to question you. I'm sorry I challenged you like that, but what did you expect? I don't know you, do you expect others to accept what you say to them without showing proof. I know I walk in darkness but Jesus is my light and I try to pass that light on to others. I'm sorry that all you see when you look at others is darkness. If you are looking for perfection in other humans you won't find it, everyone sins, I certantly know I do. This is only my personal opinion, and I'm in no way trying to steer you in a direction you don't want to go, but I think maybe you should visit different churches and find one that is more uplifting and less focused on Revalations. I think the Revalations are very important as, is every book in the Bible, but maybe you should look for a church that focuses on bringing people to Christ through faith and love and not so much fear. I don't think God intends for us to be driven solely by fear. Peace in Christ and good luck to you, AmyG
Re: The Helpful Angel « Reply #14 on May 16, 2007, 5:52pm »
Amy I never said I felt I was saved and no one else was, you really are not absorbing what I am saying, not what so ever, what I said was not everyone receives Holy Spirit Amy, it does not mean that you will not be saved, yes I am different then other Christians, even Jesus spoke about the differences of believers,
I am what you would call a light, which is someone with holy spirit, then their are ones with weeds, and ones with thorns,this is spoken in scriptures,
AS far as righteous anger goes, it usually revolves around heresy issues, which is what denominations are. I can not tell you a denomination Amy, because I do not have one. I am Christian, with a Hebrew background, the 144,000 will have a Hebrew background. That is why I follow the laws of moses, the ten commandments and the teachings of Christ, like the disciples did, they followed it all, not just Jesus Christ, but also the Old Testament, you talk about scriptures, yet posted up asking others to talk about the dreams? That is not holy or of God, the Old testament is NOT null and void because of Christ, he came to fulfill the prophesy yes, but NOT to change the laws, and he SAYS this.
I will try to find you the scriptures of the different believers if you like? I just do not recall the exact location, but I could find it for you in a short time.
If you doubt I am a prophet that is fine, I know I am and others know I am, but that is not important of who knows anyhow, I do what I do, and why I do it, for the Harvest. It does not matter to me about being believed, I pass the message on, and if it sinks in, it does, if it doesn't then I just pray about it and let God do what he needs to do.
Not everyone is going to believe the letter Amy, it's just not your time yet. Everyone has different timings with God, I do know others in here believe that letter, it's just you pointing it out, have you noticed this?
As I said different believers etc... Those people will be saved but not everyone receives Holy Spirit, the revelations do say that during the final stages an outpouring of spirit will come, this is the time of that outpouring,
do you lie still? do you still swear? do you participate in the occult? if you answer yes to these questions then God can not dwell inside your body, I went through it Amy, when I first received Holy Spirit, I still had a divination spirit, wow, I had chest pains, went to the hospital and thought I was having a heart attack, you see the spirit dwells inside the heart, and I still had a thorn, the pain was actually physical Amy until guess what? through the spirit I realized what was causing that pain, and called out to the Lord to remove that spirit, I threw up, more then once, and the pain went away, gradually as I was releasing my demons, it went away, that including the swearing, all of it, once I was clean the chest pain left with it..
that is how I know about holy spirit being in your body at the same time their are demons, it is painful physically...then you dispatch them one at a time, now I get little hot spots on my head instead, wanna know why?
because you see when eve plucked from the tree of knowledge, which is also called the tree of consciousness, she was not supposed to do that, as well all know, so what is happening is the beautiful holy spirit is clashing against my consciousness, we were not meant to have,
remember " how did you know you were naked?" God asked Adam and Eve. So I do get spots everyday on my head, so now I am demon free, yes demon free, but the only thing holy spirit does not like is consciousness,
you do not need to believe me Amy, I already know some whom I have preached to will be going through the same thing, when they receive Holy Spirit, they will know it...
Re: The Helpful Angel « Reply #15 on May 16, 2007, 6:18pm »
and the Lord told me Amy to let you know about your divination spirit for your freedom, not judgement, it was not meant to be insulting it was so you could be free.
Not everyone will take that news strongly that it was done out of love. When it was. I told you that out of love for the body of Christ Amy, no other reason,
some will not accept that information and continue on with the divination too, this will happen, but of course, once the message has been delivered Amy, should it continue, then you do get left behind, witchcraft is witchcraft in the eyes of God, and is not welcome in the gates of heaven, you know alot about the new testament, dig in to the old testament too, because it is still in effect, God does not change his laws or views,
he still feels the same way now as he did to moses in deutronomy, very much so, it is all demonic all that card reading etc...
I know because I did it!!! it would be different if I sat here and preached about it but nver read a card, that is not the case, I owned two different decks, one which they call druid, one which was the angel card deck,
plus I was reading horoscopes,
I am not innocent, I mean you mentioned about sin, of course I am a sinner, but when the truth was revealed to me I changed holy spirit will change your views about sinning, Apostle Paul even says to walk away from them, not to continue doing it, but to try with all your heart and mind and prayer with God, to move away from those sins,
Re: The Helpful Angel « Reply #16 on May 16, 2007, 8:52pm »
anna, I still have several questions. But first of all, I have been trying to live my life correctly. I rarely swear, I've never committed adultery on my husband, I try not to lie, I have confessed to God that I have stole things before. I asked him to forgive me and I know that He has, because He says if we ask earnestly He will erase our sin if we turn from it. I try not to gossip or say mean things about others, but it seems like I always end up failing at that one. I have never taken drugs and I have only been drunk once in my life. I try not to speak badly about my parents, but they are divorcing now after 41 years of marriage and although I try to stay neutral, it's hard to. I try not to envy others, I try to be content and thankful for what I have. I've never used tarot cards or Ouija boards, but I guess if you consider reading ghost stories witchcraft, then obviously I'm guilty. I can't explain some of the weird things that have happened to me or to others, so I come here to talk to others who have had similar things happen to them. I try to attend church whenever the doors are open. But I have gotten lazy on occasion and laid out. I home school my children because I do not like my children to go anywhere that states that God is not welcome. I use a Bible based curriculum. All of their subjects are taught based on the Bible. I'm sorry for not thinking before I spoke about some things you have written here. It's just that I have seen so many friends and loved ones turn away from God because of others looking down their noses acting 'holier than Thou'. My mother-in-law turned from God for years because the very next day after her son was killed, some 'Christians' where she worked came to her house and told her, her son was in Hell because he was not baptized. I'm sorry, but I don't think God sent them say that. I guess when you came on as you did I just assumed this is what you were doing. I don't know any of the others thoughts on this. Perhaps they don't want to share, I don't know. Please explain to me why discussing dreams is wrong. There are stories in the Bible of dream interpreters who found much favor with God. Jacob was one of those. I know that God sends messages through dreams, one example of this is when He sent Peter the dream of the animals on the flag that were not supposed to be eaten. Peter interpreted this dream to mean that God found favor with Gentiles. There are many many stories in the Bible where God used dreams to send messages. If Peter had not spoken of his dream then how was it written in the Bible? I want to share an experience with you that I shared with a friend here privately just yesterday. I used to do my Bible studies at night, lying on my bed. Every time I would start to get into the studying something would bump my bed. I posted this experience in another category yesterday. The part I left out was that during my studying, I would feel this deep burning sensation in my chest. It wasn't like heart burn or anything, it was much deeper. It would burn until it ached and then it would travel to my arms and they would go numb. I always made myself get up when that started because it scared me. At first I thought it was coming from God but then I thought that if it was from Him, then I wouldn't be scared of it. I assumed it was from Satan, you know, trying to get me to stop studying God's word. I just wasn't sure so I told myself that the next time it happened I would try to stand it for as long as I could. When it happened the next time I let it continue until my ears became stuffed and I could not hear well, and it was hard to breath, I had to breath very deeply to get a good breath. The light in the room seemed brighter than usual. When I could no longer breath well at all it scared me so bad I made myself get up. As soon as I would get up and walk around a while the sensations would go away. I have to admit though that after the last episode I have not studied the Bible as often on my own, but rather through study groups at church. So if it was from Satan I guess he did get a toehold on me there. The reason I messaged this privately was because I figured if you read it you would say I was possed or something. What are your thoughts on this experience? I still disagree with your statement that God cannot dwell in sinners, I don't understand what you mean. You say you have the Holy Spirit in you, but then you admitted to me that you still sin. I just don't understand what you mean? I also used to suffer terrible migrains that would only effect certain areas of my head. I do still feel twinges on certain parts of my head. Now let me add quickly that I am in NO WAY saying that I am one of the 144,000. I don't feel that God would chose me like that. I'm also not saying that your experiences are common and that everyone has them. I guess I'm just looking for ways to relate to you and what you saying. I prayed for the healing of my migranes and so far I haven't had a severe one for almost 3 years now. AmyG
Re: The Helpful Angel « Reply #17 on May 17, 2007, 5:53pm »
I try to avoid sinning as much as possible is what I said, I turned away from it. I am not saying that I have not let the ODD swear word out, I have but I control it, I control not sinning, because it takes obedience out of love to do it,
When you think of God, what do you think of?
He is perfection, love, without flaw or error, he made rules to help us not hinder us, he is grace, mercy and truth.
God's beautiful holy spirit can not reside inside a body that is still lying, still doing terrible things, he would not place his spirit, inside someone who is or still is doing those things. It goes completely against what and who he is. He chooses people that he knows will change completely to house his spirit. Because as you know, God knows everything that is going to happen to you, he planned every hair on our heads, so he knew I would choose to throw out the cards, and stop reading those garbage horoscopes.
As far as dreams go I placed the scripture on that chain you started as to why, if you are figuring out what you need to change about yourself, to walk with God, that is between the two of you. It's private and personal. But if you are having dreams or even asking for them for that matter, that are futuristic but outside of scripture, it is not from God. When God sends dreams, its about your changes, or it will be dead on to scriptures.
Like Daniel dreamed about Jesus Christ and revelations. The people in the bible you are talking about, were chosen by God to do what they did, it does not give us permission to do so as well.
If you read deutronomy it explains to you why this is wrong in the eyes of God, certain people have annointings as well, if my husband told me a dream, which he does not discuss with me, nor do I ask, that is on his own accord, but if he did, the Lord did give me permission, that if I felt it was from him, I could discern it for him, if it is not from God, I would not discern it, plus I could not understand it anyway if it was from Satan. Demons can give you dreams, or nightmares, I can not discern dreams unless they are from God, prophets are like that, how can a holy prophet of the Lord discern something that is not from him?
this goes vice versa as well,
I listen to scripture, and I listen to holy spirit, I would never post my dreams up here because the Lord is against that. He deserves his privacy with you as well. That intimacy, that only the two of you should share, that is why I never pry into my husbands dreams.
we should never compare ourselves to people in the bible either, every one of Gods children are different, different gifts, different purposes for those gifts,
God Does Not Sin « Reply #18 on May 17, 2007, 6:17pm »
God does not sin, that is why he cannot dwell inside a sinner.
actually the dream you are referring to is the dream that paul had that we could eat all meats, this is in Acts,
Jesus even prophesied about some churchs telling you not to eat certain meats etc.. which is happening.
we were also to watch for churchs grovelling to angels instead of God, this I have seen a few times now, at two different churchs,
we are to ask God for protection not an angel of the Lord, that is so new agey,
we were to watch for earthquakes, hense the tsunamis,
I have also witnessed false tongues, tongues were and still are LANGUAGES, I have interpretted Hebrew, Spanish, and an Oriental Language I have never understood before,
yet the penecostals are praying their gibberish and calling it tongues!! To move up the ladders of the church's!!!It's disgusting and a slap in the face to God to pretend you have that gift!!
God gave those disciples the power to speak those languages so they could spread the gospel to all those countries!! How do you think a Hebrew (Paul) could preach to the Greeks? Or the Italians in Rome? He had to know the language, same as the disciples as well. So they could spread the word they had to speak the languages!!!
it's just so gross to me to hear it in the churchs the falsy's so they can be up on top of the list...but they think they are being blessed by God? How can God bless someone who is lying and deceiving others? HE CAN"T. But satan sure as hell can in that situation, evil spirits will provide to those who are doing evil things too...it works that way as well. But Gods holy people will know the difference of a blessing from him, and the other stuff.
False Prophets « Reply #19 on May 17, 2007, 6:41pm »
Matthew 24:24-25 Sign of the End of the Age
For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect -- if that were possible. See, I have told you ahead of time.
this one is a biggie, I had false prophets who are reading cards tell me flat out that they have seen miracles, well those miracles were not from God, Satan and his servants provided those miracles.
this is to match what I was saying right above,
false prophesy is also happening in the churchs, telling you about money, or what is happening next week, that is not holy, revelations explains to you what prophesy is the end times, it is through the spirit of christ, revelations, and scriptures,
Re: The Helpful Angel « Reply #21 on May 17, 2007, 9:56pm »
anna, I think I'm starting to see where you're coming from. Let me ask you another question and I'm sorry if I'm going in circles but I'm trying to sort things out. Do you mean that only Prophets can understand Revalations? I have attended study groups about it and tried studying it myself and I still can't make head or tails of it? AmyG
Re: The Helpful Angel « Reply #23 on May 18, 2007, 12:12pm »
anna, You directed me to this website yourself, it was gotquestions.org. I looked up prophets there and the writer of this particular article(Charles Stanley) stated he did not believe prophets were at work today. Through his study of the Bible he concluded that prophecy was given as a temporary gift given to those who were helping to lay the foundations of the church.' Since the foundations have already been layed why would we need them now.' I have continually questioned you on this and your final answer was simply that "it's just not my time with God yet so that's why you can't understand" That seems like an easy and safe answer on your part. You now state to Kimberly that she is the reason you have been sent. Is that because my questions are too hard? The Bible states that if we are in doubt we should look only to his true word for answers, and not to others who claim to be prophets.
I have another question for you. You stated that I don't have the Holy Spirit, that only these chosen Prophits have it. I got this from my Bible and also studied in depth on the website you gave me(gotquestions.org) 1 Chorinthians 12:13 "for we were all baptized by one spirit into the one body, whether Jews or Greeks, slave or free, and we were all given the one Spirit to drink." 'Here the Apostle Paul clearly taught that we recieve the Holy Spirit the moment we believe in Jesus Christ as our Savior.' I believe the Holy Spirit is the one Jesus promised would come to us as our 'comforter' when he returned to Heavan. You also told me to be given the spirit you must have a Hebrew background. Here it clearly states that we all can recieve it.
I'm sorry but it seems like when I make an interesting point you say that God tells you not to answer me. Why? I keep telling myself not to post here anymore, but God tells me to come back. I know you will say that that wasn't God talking to me, it was my familiar or Satan, but I know it's not. AmyG
Re: The Helpful Angel « Reply #24 on May 18, 2007, 1:26pm »
AmyG,
Please see my post to Anna under Demons. I would like to ask that we stop this back and forth discussion over relegious issues. It is not the intent of this site to become a forum for relegious discussion. As I read each response, each one gets more hurtful than the other. It has no value here and it will not resolve anything. I suggest that you, Anna and anyone else that wants to continue this subject exchange e-mail addresses and do it that way.
If you have comments relating to any other of my topics, I would love to hear them. Thanks, Ron
Re: The Helpful Angel « Reply #25 on May 18, 2007, 1:44pm »
Ron, My apollogizes to everyone. That was not my intent, but sometimes once things like that get going, it is hard to stop. Thank you for putting an end to it. Again I am sorry, AmyG
Re: The Helpful Angel « Reply #26 on Jan 4, 2008, 4:15am »
I didn't read the whole story, but angels are truly a blessing, ahh, angels. Ans if anna wrecks this site... I think anna is either putting up an act or is crazy, physco!
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